{"id":250406,"date":"2022-05-18T14:42:00","date_gmt":"2022-05-18T11:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/?p=250406"},"modified":"2022-05-18T16:46:45","modified_gmt":"2022-05-18T13:46:45","slug":"saab-9-3-ii-with-mileage-a-very-successful-body-and-a-lot-of-problems-with-electric-blocks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/saab-9-3-ii-with-mileage-a-very-successful-body-and-a-lot-of-problems-with-electric-blocks\/","title":{"rendered":"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Buying a used car of an already defunct brand seems to be a serious adventure. Although the 9-3 is a car from the &#8220;late GM&#8221; era, and there seems to be nothing specifically Swedish about it. Or is there? In the first part, we analyze the problems of the body, interior and electrics, and in the second &#8211; the chassis, transmission and motors.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>Technics<\/h3>\n<p>Many perceive the second generation 9-3 (aka NG, New Generation among Saabists) as a complete copy of the Opel Vectra C in a Swedish body, but in fact it is a completely different car, albeit based on the same platform and set of units. The number of changes is so great that no assembly larger than a throttle can be simply put from one car to another. With all the external similarity, there is something else&#8230; by and large, everything.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The hubs have their own ABS sensors, the suspension has other characteristics of all elements, the engine has a different cylinder head, its own power steering pump, its own control system, there are other electronics and climate control in the cabin.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Even the body is radically different: it is smaller, stronger, heavier, and the interior also does not have a single detail in common with the Opel, except for the buttons. The ignition switch here is moved to the central tunnel, as it should be for Swedish cars.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, the Saab 9-3 still has a twin, but it's not Opel, but&#8230; Cadillac BLS. The American brand car was assembled in Trollh\u00e4ttan, and not at all in the USA, and technically it repeats Saab one to one.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec08b336.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec08b336.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Otherwise, the 9-3 of the second generation is a more or less typical representative of cars on the GM Epsilon I platform. The body is almost completely steel, only the hood is aluminum. The engine is transverse in front, the units have a row-linear arrangement. The basic drive is front-wheel drive, but there are also all-wheel drive modifications with a Haldex clutch. Body sedan, station wagon and convertible. The latter was assembled separately at the Finnish Valmet plant, and not on the main conveyor. Suspension &#8211; front MacPherson strut, rear multi-link suspension is quite a simple scheme.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The motors in this generation are all jointly developed with Opel, nothing has been preserved from the old line. But it was Saab specialists who were the developers of the turbocharging system for 2.0 and 2.8 engines, so the &#8220;stuffing&#8221; is not entirely alien. Completely &#8220;non-Saab&#8221; are only diesel engines and naturally aspirated engine 1.8.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Gearboxes are also from the set of GM units: mechanical 5-speed F23, 6-speed F40, and automatic transmission &#8211; Aisin 5-speed AW55-50 (51) SN and 6-speed TF-81SC.<\/p>\n<h3>Timeline<\/h3>\n<p><strong>September 2002<\/strong> The model is presented in Europe. 2.0T motors in power options of 150, 175 and 210 hp. with 5-speed manual and automatic transmissions. Engine 150 hp <a href=\"\/recomendet-appsumo\" class=\"sds-arl\">design<\/a>ated as 1.8T, but the working volume is a full 2 \u200b\u200bliters. A 2.2 125 hp diesel is also available. with MCP.<\/p>\n<p><strong>August 2003<\/strong> Convertible exit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>January 2004<\/strong> The appearance in the lineup of the weakest motor &#8211; Opel atmospheric 1.8, only with a manual gearbox.<\/p>\n<p><strong>September 2004<\/strong> Updating the line of diesel engines: 2.2 is no longer available, it is being replaced by 1.9 turbodiesels developed jointly with FIAT &#8211; 1.9 8V 120 hp. and 1.9 16V 150 HP A more powerful variant is available with a 6-speed automatic transmission.<\/p>\n<p><strong>March 2005<\/strong> A variant with a station wagon body is proposed. Interior and electronics upgrades. There is a new 250 hp V6 2.8T engine available with a 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmission.<\/p>\n<p><strong>October 2007<\/strong> Model restyling. Changes to the interior and exterior of the car.<\/p>\n<p><strong>December 2007<\/strong> The advent of the all-wheel drive Turbo-X, it is available with a 2.0 210 hp engine. and with an updated unit 2.8 255 hp<\/p>\n<p><strong>January 2011<\/strong> Second update. Motors Euro-5. BioPower 2.0 gasoline engines with direct injection from the same range of engines in 163, 175, 200 and 220 hp versions. Diesel engines 1.9 were updated and received a pressurization system with two turbines and three power gradations, 130, 160 and 180 hp. Atmospheric 1.8 and 2.8T are no longer available.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mid 2011.<\/strong> Stop production and start the bankruptcy of the SAAB brand.<\/p>\n<p><strong>September 18, 2013.<\/strong> Resumption of production in Trollh\u00e4ttan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mid 2014.<\/strong> Final stop of production.<\/p>\n<p><strong>After 2014,<\/strong> NEVS produced small pilot batches of an electric car based on the 9-3's body and design, but lost the ability to use the brand, and that's a completely different story.<\/p>\n<h2>Body<\/h2>\n<h3>External panels<\/h3>\n<p>The bodywork of Swedish cars has been made of galvanized steel and carefully protected against corrosion since time immemorial, and the second generation 9-3 was no exception. But the quality of the coloring was far from ideal. The paintwork in this generation is quite delicate, prone to chipping, and in the first years of production it also loses its shine over time, requiring polishing and applying a new layer of varnish on some color options.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec1d6190.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec1d6190.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Closer to restyling, the quality of painting has become more stable, but in most cases, one can only hope for a native paintwork without touch-ups and in good condition by choosing cars of 2008-2011. Older cars have near-zero chances of this, unless it's a time capsule with garage storage and hundreds of thousands of miles. Very late cars of the bankruptcy period are unpredictable &#8211; they spent many months in a semi-assembled state, and the technological chains were broken randomly.<\/p>\n<p>The main sore point of the body is the rear body arches and the rear wing at the junction with the bumper. Thresholds suffer mainly due to a puncture with a fastening of the lining in the opening of the driver's and passenger's doors, rotting under the plastic from above. At the bottom of the threshold, corrosion mainly develops under the plastic lining in the back near the rear arch when it is depressurized. The front arches are usually intact, and small chips and corrosion are invisible from the outside. On the leading edge of the roof, rust crawls under the upper windshield molding and spreads from there.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec317cd3.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec317cd3.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec47f78f.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec47f78f.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec59dcf6.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec59dcf6.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec6ae1a3.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec6ae1a3.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The trunk lid rusts slowly and to a greater extent on sedans. But the rear panel under it suffers greatly due to the unsuccessful design of the trunk opening seal. Under the seal, the metal rusts in the lower part and little by little rust creeps out, just in the area of \u200b\u200bu200bu200bthe castle.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec7c3144.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec7c3144.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec8e30ed.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ec8e30ed.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Doors suffer mainly from chips, but the bottom seam sometimes also blooms. But the most common problem, which manifests itself even on cars after restyling, is the corrosion of the internal reinforcement of the upper moldings of window openings &#8211; they are bursting, and they leave rusty streaks on the body. On cars before restyling, there are also lower moldings, their attachment points are also a problem area. Chips and scratches are not uncommon around the handles, but usually there is no rust.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eca0b9d0.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eca0b9d0.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Outwardly, even inexpensive cars look good, the main thing is that the rear arches should not be fashioned from putty, and corrosion at problem points should be localized at least by a banal cleaning and touch-up. It is difficult to find a really dead copy, there are not so many of these cars lately, but there are still enough spare parts, including body parts, with a margin.<\/p>\n<h3>Bottom<\/h3>\n<p>A closer inspection on the lift is unlikely to give much cause for concern. The main part of the bottom is well covered with a layer of mastic, and there is no rust on it, except that the edges of the plugs may already begin to rust. There is surface rust on the sides of the gas tank &#8211; there is a small indentation that has not been treated with mastic from the factory, and a bunch of tubes and indentations for the mounting brackets for the trailing arm of the rear suspension and subframe. As a result, ventilation is poorer and there is no protection, so surface rust is usually present, but perforation is rare. Even in the rear arches, the seams and holes are usually intact.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecb55187.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecb55187.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecc90916.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecc90916.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The main problem is the seam between the wing and the inner arch, it rusts from the edge and from the inside due to poor ventilation of the narrow cavity to the threshold (if it is not regularly shed with anticorrosive), and the front wall of the arch. The seams of the rear panel of the body rot around the perimeter &#8211; not terrible, but unpleasant.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Among the cars of the first releases, you can already find instances in which you can see the ground from the trunk. About the rzhu under the internal seal of the trunk opening, I have already said above, inside the trunk the problem is presented much more noticeably and wider. If on the outside it is a small drip and swelling of the paint, then from the inside there are already loose growths over most of the length of the lower joint of the panels under the seal. The side niches of the trunk also rust, but there are almost no serious problems, unless there is water here due to damage to the seals.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecda49d6.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecda49d6.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecec3421.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecec3421.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecfe4c60.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ecfe4c60.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In the front arches, as well as outside, there is usually order, except that the inner edge of the wing is gradually corroding due to the features of the locker attachment, and the mud pocket in the mudguard area collects dirt, but there is usually no rust even on cars before restyling, if only from non-factory mudguard fasteners.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In the engine compartment, everything is usually fine, even the cheapest cars have glasses intact, their seams should be factory, a little surface rust on the shelves of the mudguards, where dirt collects, and on the beam under the bumper. There may be surface pitting on the inside of the suspension cup and spar &#8211; in a good way, it needs to be anticorrosive, although a car with such problems will most likely drive for another fifteen years.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed175535.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed175535.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed29a073.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed29a073.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Body equipment<\/h3>\n<p>The appearance of the Saab 9-3 is usually not spoiled by corrosion, but by broken small things. For example, mirror brackets peel off and leave streaks on doors, door handles break, moldings swell, headlight plastic turns yellow and cloudy (typical for dorestyle), paintwork on bumpers peels off (found on specimens before 2008)&#8230; Bumper grilles fall out due to unreliable fasteners so often that there is already a shortage of both new and used parts.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed40b274.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed40b274.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed56de6c.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed56de6c.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The wiper trapezoid with runs of 250+ is prone to wedging, the resource of door locks is about the same &#8211; usually due to non-working contacts inside the mechanism, the doors are blocked and unlocked &#8220;at will&#8221;. Door opening limiters break at much lower mileage &#8211; the design itself is rather weak, and therefore the owners either change the assembly mechanism regularly, or put bushings, or simply listen to &#8220;three clicks&#8221; when opening. Window regulator failures are usually associated with a break in the drive cable and skewed glass. Fortunately, everything is sorted out here quickly and conveniently &#8211; maintainability turned out to be higher than that of Vectra C.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed690981.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed690981.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The headlight washer system for cars before restyling is very reliable, except that the pump can fail &#8211; it is here in a somewhat specific format, but you can convert the fittings and connector to more common options. But for cars after restyling, the covers from the washer nozzles fly away easily, the fastening turned out to be not the most successful, and the nozzles themselves wedge.<\/p>\n<p>All problems are solvable and to a greater extent serve as an indicator of the owner's attitude towards the car and service. However, there is also a saving on matches during creation. Earlier (including GM versions) cars of this brand were made based on a longer service life.<\/p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Detail<\/th>\n<th>original price<\/th>\n<th>The price of the original<\/th>\n<th>Price of non-original 2<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Windshield<\/td>\n<td>Out of stock<\/td>\n<td>Securit <strong>15 504<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Vendor <strong>9 653<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Front wing<\/td>\n<td><strong>32 526<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Flash <strong>18 320<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Polcar <strong>20 397<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Front bumper<\/td>\n<td><strong>43 073<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Out of stock<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Hood<\/td>\n<td><strong>85 217<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Out of stock<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h3>Salon\u00a0<\/h3>\n<p>Salon at 9-3 is trying to be premium, but, unfortunately, the quality was not reported. So, in simple versions, the front overlay of the dashboard frankly creaks. You can put an option from the Hirsh court tuning studio (it's something like AMG for Mercedes and Alpina for BMW) or from restyled top-end trim levels, where it is sheathed in leatherette. You can even sheathe it yourself, since the shape is simple. It will be better, but still there is a bit too much echoing plastic &#8211; the American style reigns.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed7a6ae4.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed7a6ae4.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed9193c3.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ed9193c3.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eda5fcee.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eda5fcee.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The same with door handles &#8211; they quickly peel off, the soft vinyl coating turned out to be short-lived. Real fans alter both door cards and seats &#8211; fabric inserts in inexpensive versions are very easily soiled, and eco-leather sidewalls are torn. The peeling silver coating also spoils the appearance of the cabin, and it is here on the steering wheel, and on the panel around the gear lever, and on the lever itself. But the worst thing is the coverage of the climate system buttons and ICM2 \/ 3 multimedia modules. This &#8220;soft-touch&#8221; peels off, leaving gray and white bald spots.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507edb8b03b.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507edb8b03b.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507edca7244.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507edca7244.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A lot of little things can break &#8211; handles, locks and more. A broken butterfly cup holder can &#8220;shoot back&#8221; instead of opening, the latches and locks of the armrest and glove box can play and knock, and the rear seat back lock sensor (by the way, a unique option) is simply broken, closing the backs with a &#8220;blow&#8221;. Most of the problems are related to the operation of the electrics of the machine and will be described below.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eddc24aa.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eddc24aa.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507edee0059.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507edee0059.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The climate is successful: unlike the older brother 9-5 of the first generation, here it does not break in terms of dampers, and unlike the Vectra C, the control unit and its buttons do not break here. Occasionally, the fan speed controller and the fan itself fail, but this is more likely with runs under 300 thousand. But the compressor serves 200 thousand &#8211; there is a unit with adjustable volumetric productivity, without a clutch and with a valve, and this design has a working stroke even in winter in frosts under -30. That does not contribute to the conservation of the resource. If you buy used, then you will have to change much more often, because the residual resource is usually small.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee001419.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee001419.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee142b10.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee142b10.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee2676b5.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee2676b5.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee38b50e.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee38b50e.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee4ac48f.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee4ac48f.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Electrician<\/h3>\n<p>Any Saab 9-3 II buyer should remember at least a few magic phrases. Trionic 8, CIM module, ignition switch module, REC module and BCM module. You can not particularly remember about the wiring, except that the corrugations of the trunk and doors need to be checked, and the engine compartment wiring is usually in good condition. The generator is not eternal, but up to 150-200 thousand it does not cause much trouble, earlier only the overrunning clutch is rented, then &#8211; as lucky.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee62ccde.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee62ccde.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But the headache is just those blocks whose names are listed at the beginning. The most expensive problem at the moment is, in fact, the Trionic engine control unit. It is located directly on the motor and gets very hot, as a result, for the luckiest, it serves somewhere around 300-350 thousand kilometers, and often fails much earlier. Strange misfires, injector failures, sensor failures, CAN bus failures &#8211; these are all his tricks.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Front wing<\/p>\n<p>32 526 conventional units<\/p>\n<p>You can replace the block with a new one, this is about 50 thousand conventional units plus firmware and a mandatory resistor for the bus. However, there are almost no dealers where they can upload the factory firmware due to the disappearance of the brand as such. You will have to look for a few craftsmen who can pull out the factory firmware of the block using real Tex2, restore the firmware of the old block and upload it to the new one. If you put a used block, then again only with craftsmen &#8211; sometimes you come across restored blocks, sometimes just fresh ones. Recovery is not always successful, because soldering is complicated, and blocks can sometimes work for a few months, and the price of such a restoration is up to half the price of a new block. In general, there is always a risk.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>There are two ways to reduce it: by <a href=\"\/recomendet-kiwitaxi-product\" class=\"sds-arl\">transfer<\/a>ring the control unit from the motor to the front panel or by installing it in a special casing that isolates the unit from engine heat. In the first case, you need to extend the three wires in the connector block and make a new ground contact &#8211; by and large, it's easy. The second option does not require intervention in the wiring. At the same time, such a misfortune as getting antifreeze on the ECU connectors is excluded &#8211; a tee of the cooling system is located nearby, and it sometimes flows. Along with the ECU unit, you need to change the ionization unit &#8211; here it plays the role of knock control in the engine and is rigidly tied to the version of the Trionic unit. When replacing a block with a new one, this block is also updated without fail. By the way, the ionization unit itself serves as a regular irritant for the owner, if the candles are not changed regularly, then the coils and the ionization unit become a consumable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee7a3bc5.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee7a3bc5.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The CIM module is basically a headache for owners of first-generation machines, after 2005 the problem is almost non-existent, breakdowns of such blocks happen an order of magnitude less often. The module is responsible for, among other things, steering column lock, key binding, car start, steering wheel position sensor and instrument panel operation. On later cars, the CIM module is more reliable, but several more modules give out a similar set of problems: the BCM unit, the ignition key module and the steering column lock unit. All this is sewn and changed, and even the prices in the last few years have not been very high, the average repair is less than 10-15 thousand conventional units. But it's still too much trouble. Specialized services recommend preventive cleaning of the contacts of the ignition key module and the removal of &#8220;extra&#8221; elements such as the steering column lock module.<\/p>\n<p>Another problem of the 9-3 release right up to 2008 is related to the fact that the REC module dies, sometimes it pulls the BCM along with it. REC is a rear power distribution hub, and in the event of a complete breakdown, the car will not start: there will be no power to the fuel pump. But in most cases, the situation is simpler &#8211; the wrong rear lights are on (or vice versa).<\/p>\n<p>And the reason is in the license plate backlight module: its contacts close to the body, and a composite transistor in the power circuit explodes in the block. It explodes in very different ways, sometimes outwardly the problem can be seen only by the fact that the &#8220;feet&#8221; are constantly lit, and sometimes the car is not going anywhere. But the replacement of the block here is only with firmware, so it's easier to replace the transistor assembly and the burnt harness.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee903435.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507ee903435.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The ABS block is also not very successful, it suffers from soldering dumps. On cars before restyling in 2008, this happens often and there is a shortage of serviceable blocks, and repairs are difficult &#8211; the soldering here is very thin, unlike older versions. Installation of newer ABS units is possible, but requires intervention in the wiring and installation of a new unit connector.<\/p>\n<h3>Subtotal<\/h3>\n<p>The car as a whole was lucky with the quality of the metal, so if you come across a rotten copy, feel free to cut it off &#8211; there will be much more intact ones. Unless it's a rare convertible or station wagon in our area, which you definitely need&#8230; It will not be easy for perfectionists with 9-3, there are a lot of breaking small things both outside and inside in the cabin, which also frustrates with the low quality of finishing materials. The electrics are already quite complex and capable of drinking a lot of blood, which is aggravated by the lack of official dealers of the brand, the total binding of blocks to each other and the impossibility of replacing them &#8220;in the garage&#8221;. In the next part, we will study the chassis, transmission and motors.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eea55c8c.webp\" data-rel=\"lightbox\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"SDStudio-light-box-enable SDStudio-editor-tools-md-imp\" src=\"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/post-231344-62507eea55c8c.webp\" alt=\"Saab 9-3 II with mileage: a very successful body and a lot of problems with electric blocks\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Buying a used car of an already defunct brand seems to be a serious adventure. Although the 9-3 is a car from the &#8220;late GM&#8221; era, and there seems to be nothing specifically Swedish about it. Or is there? In the first part, we analyze the problems of the body, interior and electrics, and in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":231345,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_wp_rev_ctl_limit":""},"categories":[875,945],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-250406","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-otsinka-kharakterystyk-ta-vartosti-en","category-vybir-ta-kupivlia-avtomobilia-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/250406","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=250406"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/250406\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/231345"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=250406"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=250406"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/auto.inform.com.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=250406"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}